George Soros Revisited
Posted on April 16 2007 by Cecilie Surasky under Media.It’s my custom on Yom HaShoah to spend some time sitting with the facts of the Holocaust, looking at photos and listening to the testimony of survivors. Painful work, I find, but an important remembrance- a small way to connect with all of what was lost. A couple of good resources online are the Fortunoff Archive and the site Holocaust Survivors.org.
This got me thinking about George Soros, among other things. Soros, for those who don’t know, is a multi-billionaire, a Jewish Holocaust survivor, and a sometimes contributor to progressive causes. He has also come out recently as a critic of AIPAC.
In a New Republic article, “Tyran-a-Soros”, Martin Peretz - a neoconservative intellectual who disagrees with Soros’ criticism of U.S. policy in the Mideast - accused Soros of collaborating with the Nazis. He quoted a 1998 interview Soros did with Steve Kroft on 60 Minutes. We’ll come back to the part in bold type momentarily.
Kroft: “You’re a Hungarian Jew …” Soros: “Mm-hmm.”
Kroft: “… who escaped the Holocaust …”
Soros: “Mm-hmm.”
Kroft: “… by posing as a Christian.”
Soros: “Right.”
Kroft: “And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.” Soros: “Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.”
Kroft: “In what way?”
Soros: “That one should think ahead. One should understand that–and anticipate events and when, when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a– a very personal threat of evil.”
Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”
Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”
Kroft: “I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”
Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.”
Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”
Soros: “No.”
Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”
Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets–that is I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.”
It’s hard to hear Soros saying he feels no guilt. It’s inconceivable to me that he could have lost his family, seen his community vanish, and not had powerful feelings that he would carry through his life. The halting way he answers the questions is, I think, a sign of his discomfort. But how he has dealt with this, and what he may have felt like sharing on national television, is another matter.
I do not think it’s the place of non-survivors to judge those who lived through the Holocaust. What Peretz may not understand is that there really were no heroes at the height of the Nazi terror. If Soros had stood up and claimed his heritage, he would simply have been murdered. Many Jews did what they had to do to survive, and I am sure that many compromised themselves in ways we can hardly imagine. That is the nature of totalitarianism.
Even more disturbing, though, is that Peretz evidently doctored the transcript, cutting out parts that explain Soros’ actions, and making him look like a willing collaborator with the Nazis.
The unedited transcript, dug up by Media Matters, reads:
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
In other words, Peretz removed the reference to the official who was protecting Soros - making it look as if Soros, himself, was collaborating with the Nazis to steal property from Jews who had been sent to the camps.
Soros responded in an April article in the New York Review of Books.
Ever since I participated in a meeting discussing the need for voicing alternative views, a torrent of slanders has been released including the false accusation in The New Republic that I was a “young cog in the Hitlerite wheel” at the age of thirteen when my father arranged a false identity to save my life and I accompanied an official of the Ministry of Agriculture, posing as his godson, when he was taking the inventory of a Jewish estate.
To look honestly at the Shoah is to come face to face with unimaginable evil and unimaginable suffering. Even to think about it evokes deep fear, grief, rage, and many other emotions that we usually wish to avoid.
It’s understandable not to want to face these things. Most of us live our lives in relative insulation from this part of our heritage. That’s one reason Yom HaShoah is important.
If we cannot face all the implications of the Holocaust, however, one thing we must never do is trivialize it. This is something I see done on the right, and on the left as well, when we use it as a political weapon or a rhetorical device.
Some have a strong conviction that the only possible answer to the Holocaust was the creation of a Jewish state. Others have an equally strong conviction that we must never practice on another people the brutalization and dehumanization to which we were subjected under the Nazis. I would consider both of these views valid, whether I agree or disagree in substance, because they strike me as heartfelt responses to a terrible reality.
Before we evoke the Holocaust in our political talk, though, we should look long and hard at this reality: what was done, what people lived through, what was lost. It is not a small thing to call an oppressive government a Nazi state; nor is it forgivable to throw around false accusations of collaboration to discredit someone with whom you disagree.
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April 16th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
If we cannot face all the implications of the Holocaust, however, one thing we must never do is trivialize it.
Amen v’amen. Thank you for this difficult but truly valuable post.
April 16th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I am so happy to see you writing again, Andrew, because I miss your wisdom and thoughtfulness. This was a powerful piece and I will try to carry your message in my work.
April 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
“If Soros had stood up and claimed his heritage, he would simply have been murdered. Many Jews did what they had to do to survive, and I am sure that many compromised themselves in ways we can hardly imagine.”
I do not have any problem whatsoever with Soros pretending to be whatever he had to pretend to be to avoid being killed.
I have a huge problem with the fact that, after the war, he made no identifiable effort to return whatever property he helped confiscate, and also his remark to the effect that, if he hadn’t taken it, someone else would have. (True, but these are the ethics of many common thieves.) Soros apparently has no conscience whatsoever, and that (as opposed to doing what he had to to avoid being killed) is his problem.
If you are against Holocaust denial, by the way, you should also be against 9/11 denial as practiced by Rosie O’Donnell and MoveOn.org. 9/11 denial is similar to Holocaust denial, except it writes off, denies, excuses, or blames on someone other than the actual perpetrators four missing airplanes and two missing skyscrapers instead of six million missing Jews and three million missing Polish Catholics.
April 17th, 2007 at 3:34 am
In case anyone doesn’t recognize Bill Levinson, he’s a “riding buddy” of Rachel Neuwrith–the Hell’s Angels of the pro-Israel crowd.
Who is Bill Levinson to judge whether George Soros has a conscience or not? When Bill Levinson tells us he survived the Holocaust with a conscience clean as a whistle and virtue as white as snow, then he can tell us about George Soros’ conscience.
I know many Holocaust survivors and & have written about some in my blog. I would NEVER judge their actions in attempting to survive that monstrous time.
April 17th, 2007 at 7:01 am
there are six pictures in this page, my favorite one is of the wtc tower seven dropping straight down…
http://www.physics911.net/gallery/
April 17th, 2007 at 11:27 am
Re: #4
Soros has allegedly destroyed various countries’ currencies and the Bank of England to enrich himself. Per Wikipedia (admittedly not the best source, but it references others),
“In British politics and economics, Black Wednesday refers to 16 September 1992 when the Conservative government of the day was forced to withdraw the Pound from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) due to pressure by currency speculators—most notably George Soros who made over US$1 billion from this speculation. In 1997 the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion.”
Real human beings owned those 3.4 billion pounds, which were lost so Soros could make a billion dollars. Soros was also convicted of insider trading (in France).
Henry Ford deserved to be a billionaire because he created entire industries along with well-paying jobs for millions of people. Andrew Carnegie built steel mills that employed thousands of people and built entire cities (e.g. Pittsburgh). Bill Gates similarly created an entire industry, so he also earned his enormous fortune.
In comparison to entrepreneurs like Ford, Carnegie, and Gates–men who built entire industries–Soros has created absolutely nothing. I perceive him as a scavenger who lives entirely by speculation in things that other people have produced. He is admittedly good at it, but he produces absolutely nothing of benefit for our country or Humanity at large.
Furthermore, Soros has no sense of right or wrong, as shown by his denunciation of the United States as a “menace to world peace” and his repeated attacks on Israel. All one has to do is look at Freedom House’s Map of Freedom to see that the U.S. and Israel are both rated as “free” in terms of civil and political rights. Israel’s enemies are rated as “not free,” but Soros seems to have no trouble with them. Someone who cannot tell right from wrong has no conscience.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Rachel, and Howard- thank you, and nice to hear from you both. Richard, too.
2976 people died when the World Trade Center towers fell. May their memory be blessed. It was a terrible tragedy, one which many of us still feel acutely. I can only imagine the grief that persists to this day among the loved ones of those who were lost.
The events of 9/11 in no way begin to approach what happened under the Nazis from 1939 to 1945. Millions of people throughout Europe were dispossessed, driven into ghettos, transported to death camps and slaughtered with industrial efficiency. Entire populations were terrorized into submission to Nazi rule. A Jewish culture thousands of years old - its traditions, its learning, its art and literature - was essentially destroyed.
Very few historical tragedies are comparable to this. Perhaps the African slave trade, the massacre of Armenians by the Turks, the acts of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
I don’t say this to claim any special status for the Jews. Maybe it had to be us, or maybe it just happened to be us. I don’t know.
I do know that it’s terribly wrong to invoke the Holocaust casually, as some sort of political shorthand, as Mr. Levinson does when he equates it with 9/11. Wrong, because it helps us to forget what happened - as if the Holocaust were simply a rhetorical device that fits neatly into an argument between progressives and conservatives about this week’s headlines.
April 17th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
while we pay our respects to the members of the jewish community that were killed during ww2 please lets dedicate a moment of silence for those killed while communism tried to install itself forcibly on many of the peoples of the earth.
the other 40 million killed during ww2…..add to that the 50 or so million killed by the soviet communist…plus the 100 or so million killed by the chineese communist…
a tragic century indeed for many races, religions. and creeds.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
oh and bill…..with regards this bs attack at soros….Soros has no sense of right or wrong, as shown by his denunciation of the United States as a “menace to world peace” and his repeated attacks on Israel.
the rest of the world seems to feel the same was since that bbc survey that was released that numbers the united states and israel …..right down there with iran as the greatest threats to peace on planet earth….think of it….usa…israel..iran…sort of like a gold silver and bronze medal of most hated….in the olympics of the most hated.
by the way which of the world trade pictures did you find easiest not to question…….tower seven is a beaut isnt it.
April 17th, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Andrew Schamess wrote,
“I do know that it’s terribly wrong to invoke the Holocaust casually, as some sort of political shorthand, as Mr. Levinson does when he equates it with 9/11.”
The Nazis obviously murdered something like 3000 people for every person who was murdered on 9/11. My point was not how many people were murdered, but rather that historical revisionists–the same class of lowlifes who tell us that the Holocaust didn’t happen, that the Jews caused it (as was suggested at MoveOn.org), or that someone other than the Nazis were responsible–are doing exactly the same thing with 9/11.
There are people who are telling us (e.g. on MoveOn’s Action Forum) that no airplanes were hijacked, that American missiles and/or planted explosives did the dirty work, and/or the Bush administration knew it was coming and deliberately let it happen. (Similar accusations were made against Franklin Roosevelt regarding Pearl Harbor.) In fact, take a look at john doe (#9) above, or listen to the Jeff Rense Show or Rosie O’Donnell. All these individuals are in the same class as Holocaust deniers, even though the atrocity they are denying, excusing, or writing off was far smaller in magnitude.
Read George Orwell’s “1984″ to understand just how dangerous historical revisionism, whether it involves ten million Holocaust victims (the six million Jews weren’t the only ones), 1.5 million Armenians in 1915, or 3000 Americans on 9/11, can be.
Another example of historical revisionism was the Katyn Forest Massacre, in which the Soviets murdered several thousand Polish prisoners and then said the Nazis did it. This was in a book that belonged to my father (”These are the Russians”), which was written when they were our “allies.” Now, it’s hard to feel sorry for the Nazis because, given their racial policies toward Slaves, they would doubtlessly have murdered the Poles had the Soviets not gotten to them first. Nonetheless, this is still like Holocaust denial because it blames a mass murder on someone other than the actual perpetrators; that is, it is historical revisionism.
Re: #9 “.think of it….usa…israel..iran…sort of like a gold silver and bronze medal of most hated….in the olympics of the most hated.” The Romans had it right: odirent, dum metuent (let them hate as long as they fear). Yes, I do want anyone who is contemplating another 9/11 to both hate and fear the United States. I want Hamas, Hezbollah, and their sympathizers to hate and fear Israel.
As for justice and freedom, though, I suggest that you look up the United States and Israel at freedomhouse.org. Then compare their freedom ratings with those of your beloved Palestinians (e.g. Gaza under Palestinian control, or Palestinian Authority). Not Palestinians under Israeli rule, but Palestinians under Palestinian rule. Also look at Syria, Libya, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Lebanon and Jordan.
April 18th, 2007 at 2:26 am
Bill,
You say “Soros has allegedly destroyed various countries’ currencies and the Bank of England to enrich himself.”
About 15 years ago, Soros understood the folly of the Bank of England and where that would lead to. He was short (having sold against another currency) British Pound and as the economic events unfolded he and his investors were heavily rewarded.
No one man is capable of “destroying” a currency. While the ignorant media might have dubbed him that “man that broke the bank of England,” in reality he is just a man who sometimes wins and sometimes looses.
BTW, the British Pound is currently at new 15 year highs against the dollar.
April 18th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
well then you have your wish…israel is hated by her neighbors and the u.s is hated because of israel.