AIPAC and America’s Jews, blackmailing your friends
Posted on March 14 2007 by Cecilie Surasky under AIPAC.In Pelosi stand on the war in Iraq bothers Israel lobby, the SF Chronicle reported the speaker received a “cool response,” including scattered boos, from AIPAC yesterday, “after she characterized as a failure a war many of them support.”
Could AIPAC, which enjoys a kind of protective mantle because of its public Jewish identity (its supporter base includes many non-Jews), possibly be more out of touch with American Jews? At 77% opposed, our people say no to the war in Iraq in percentages greater than any other major religious group in America.
The fact is that AIPAC doesn’t just ignore what American Jews want, they think of us as an impediment.
I’ve personally encountered what I can only call blackmail-the lengths to which AIPAC will go to make sure groups like Jewish Voice for Peace can’t be heard. They actually once threatened to get the funding yanked from a respected Jewish organization program (which by and large could be considered a friend of AIPAC) if they dared allow me or anyone from Jewish Voice for Peace through the door. (I was to talk about the numerous Israeli peace groups like Rabbis for Human Rights and Machsom Watch that work for peace, justice and reconciliation.) And it worked.
No one was more disgusted by the whole affair than the organizer who invited both me and AIPAC to speak. But the threat of destroying an entire program, and one person’s livelihood, proved too potent.
But it gets worse.
As if it weren’t enough to frequently use the charge (and its well known variants like self-hating Jew, beyond the pale, anti-American, anti-Israel,pro-Palestinian terrorist, blah blah blah) to shut-up honest and important discourse…
The AIPAC-Hagee embarrassment is just one more example of how willing the pro-Israel lobby is to completely overlook real anti-Semites who stare them in the face–when it meets their needs to support the Israeli right’s hawkish, take-no -prisoners approach to “peacemaking”.
It’s hard to understand how any of this serves Jews–or anyone for that matter.
Check out Max Blumenthal over at HuffPo who has even more on AIPAC’s favorite “anti-Semitic Holocaust revisionist,” Sarah Posner’s The Goy Who cried Wolf at The American Prospect, and Richard Silverstein’s AIPAC’s Pact with the Christian Zionist Devil at Tikun Olam.
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March 14th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
AIPAC represents the vast majority of Jews.
You are at best a group of useful idiots who want to work toward the destruction of Israel. At worst, you are self-hating Jews and apologists for islamo-fascists.
I have a proposition for all who share your view. Leave the safety of your little American lives and move to Gaza or the West Bank. Live as a Dhimmi. Show the rest of us Neanderthals how wonderful life can be for Jews under the boots of Islamists.
Show us the error of our ways
Just Stop pushing the rest of us onto cattle cars. You go first!
March 14th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Call AIPAC exactly what it is.
A mafia.
With immunity from the law and press.
March 14th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Scott Fields: Spare us the tired old rhetoric that’s been spewed by folks like you here & at other similar sites.
AIPAC “represents the vast majority of Jews???” In what sense? Do 77% of AIPAC’s leadership or rank & file members oppose the Iraq war? No of course they don’t. But 77% of American Jews do. Does AIPAC support an end to settlements in the W. Bank & the return of the majority of them to the Palestinians in return for peace? Of course not, but the majority of Ameri. Jews do.
So, again, tell us in what sense can AIPAC be said to represent anyone but the right wing of this community??
March 15th, 2007 at 7:14 am
AIPAC is a hard nosed, tough as nails lobby. It is the way it is because Israel and the Jewish people face genocidal enemies and threats. The “US Friends of Switzerland Committee” can afford to be passive and docile.
I don’t put alot of stock in polls like this 77% number. These are platitudes. Most sensible people want the war to “end”. I want the war to “end” Our parents and grandparents wanted WWII to “end.” There is a real disconnect in the Jewish community right now. A majority want us to attack Iran. Phrase the issue as “Do you want the war to end if it means Israel and world Jewry will be less safe?”, see what you get
Why do you believe that returning land or anything else to the Palestinians will bring peace under their current regime and mindset? Not even the Palestinians themselves say that. The Hamas leadership say they will never accept Israel on one square inch of Palestine. With their people starving and living in squalor, they prefer armed struggle toward total victory to peace.
I just listen to what the leaders of the Palestinians say. I read their speeches and writings. I see what they teach their kids. They don’t hide their agenda but proudly pronounce it to the world.
We are in a global war with Islamists. If the state of Israel and all of its Jewish inhabitants were moved to Mars, this “war” would continue.
Finally, I will not spare you my rhetoric. You wanted open and free debate. You purport to be “muzzled.” I will not be muzzled.
The likes of David Duke and David Irving and other extremists also cry that they are being muzzled by sinister conspiracies. Maybe the problem is not that you are being muzzled, but that your views are not well founded and cannot succeed in the marketplace of ideas.
Go to Google and type in “anti-Zionist” or “Right of Return” or “Palestinian Rights” and show me where you are being muzzled.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:54 am
why are I being muzzled? Don’t like to hear both sides?
March 15th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Scott says:
“you are self-hating Jews”.
Oh, Scott, you are just too much. That’s funny: self-hating Jews. That cracks me up. Where do you come up with this funny stuff? What’s next, poopy-pants Jews?
March 15th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Why should anyone be astounded by the phenomena of “self-hating Jews?” Its rather common for an oppressed group to develop members, after awhile, that identify with and absorb the values of the oppressor and dissassociate with their own. Think of African elites that prefer to express themselves in French. Its an aspect of internalizing oppression.
March 15th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
yup, it’s like the stockholm syndrome, where the victim takes the point of view of the oppressor to survive psychologically. it’s quite common.
March 15th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Why Don’t you “Jewish Americans” use Israeli soldiers to go fight Iraq and Iran? Why and how do you get immunity from the laws of this great nation we live in. Why does the media shield you from criticism? The networks provided live coverage from the Firefighter conference this week, yet you can’t find any articles or cable news coverage on the AIPAC conference.
I already know your answer…I’m an antisemite. Thats all.
Your group is a mafia, it represents a foreign nation and should be registered as one. Your group destroys America’s democracy by using money to inflate your influence in the government. You lobby more and more laws to destroy this democracy to replace it with representation through money. You reward politicians who sell out American interests and punish those indifferent or critics of your mafia.
You use threats and intimidation to silence critics. You destroy people lives in our nation via the media and other publications.
Go away, use your own sons and daughters to fight the Arabs instead of manipulating MY COUNTRY for YOURS. Go danote to Walter Reed for all those soldiers maimed protecting your homeland.
All we have in this nation is a single political party who AIPAC masters destroy our country from a sandtrap in the middle east. Fuck all you and your Arab cousins over there. America is sick of both of you.
March 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
A more typical voice re: Jews and Israel. Note the subtle implication that not only do Jews control the entire media and government but also that all Jews are very secretly in on it ALL. Very reminiscent of the Protocols. Its frightening to think that people think the US government is so fraile and corrupt that it can be bribed wholesale.
March 15th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
well the good thing is that something like what has happened to the jews in other lands can never happen here in america, it’s different here.
March 15th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
John, I hope and trust that you are right although we are all aware that the German Jews felt the same way. They had been in Germany for a thousand years and felt more German than the Germans (although the Germans always considered them foriegners, even after a thousand years). They never understood how an advanced culture like Germany, a culture that had produced Brahm, Beethoven, Bach, Geothe etc. could commit genocide. I don’t understand either.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
john doe, that’s what they’ve said everywhere…
March 20th, 2007 at 3:01 am
If JVP/Muzzlewatch calls multiple standing ovations and wild cheers for Nancy Pelosi a “cool response” then I would be afraid to witness a “warm response” let alone an enthusiastic response. Would it even be legal?
Please view Pelosi’s comments at http://www.jerusalemonline.com/specials13.asp.
March 20th, 2007 at 3:06 am
Ms. Surasky,
JVP has been deemed “beyond the pale” by almost all Jewish organziations. We all know that you have some elements of support, whether naively or maliciously, within some Jewish organizations, but the more you are exposed, the more that erodes.
On the other hand, groups like Peace Now, New Israel Fund, Rabbis For Human Rights and even your own allies Brit Tzedek V’Shalom and Tikkun are warmly embraced.
If your contention is that AIPAC suppresses opposition, then how do you explain joint AIPAC/Peace Now presentations? How do you explain the almost unlimited access Brit Tzedek V’Shlaom has to Jewish institutions?
Keeping JVP out of Jewish institutions is not about suppressing different viewpoints, it is about JVP.
March 20th, 2007 at 3:09 am
Muzzlewatch screwed up the link to Pelosi’s speech. As I am not paranoid, I don’t think I am being “muzzled” but that it is a program glitch.
Here is the link again
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/specials13.asp