What a shocker! Brandeis welcomes Daniel Pipes, but Norman Finkelstein still left wondering
Posted on February 24 2007 by Cecilie Surasky under Daniel Pipes , Educational Institutions , Jimmy Carter , Norman Finkelstein.It’s actually painful to watch Brandeis president Jehudah Reinharz’s desperate dissembling over the ongoing Carter debacle. As we reported earlier, major donors said they will withdraw as much as $5 million from Brandeis as punishment for giving Jimmy Carter a platform (and, one assumes, a respectful reception). Later Reinharz announced he’d be putting on hold campus speaking engagements with both the right-wing Daniel Pipes and left-wing Norman Finkelstein as the school set up a new vetting process for Middle East speakers. Surprise, surprise, The Jewish Week now reports that:
A free speech dispute over campus speakers has continued to roil Brandeis University in the wake of controversy over its hosting of former president and Israel critic Jimmy Carter.
Brandeis’ president waded personally into it this week, voicing hope that right-wing Middle East policy advocate Daniel Pipes would soon lecture there — but issuing no such statement for Norman Finkelstein, a left-wing academic students have also invited.
In a personal letter to Pipes — after Pipes called publicly on Brandeis donors to consider cutting off the school — Jehuda Reinharz disavowed a report that he and an aide had criticized Pipes. Indeed, Reinharz wrote, he and his aide, John Hose, looked forward to personally attending Pipes’ lecture and meeting with him afterward in his presidential office.
Not everyone at Brandeis is happy about the new “process”:
“In 59 years, Brandeis has never had an oversight committee for speakers, nor has it ever needed one,” complained sociology professor Gordon Fellman, who chaired the faculty-student committee that invited Carter. “It doesn’t seem to me we need one now — unless some people want to keep speakers out whose views on the Middle East they find unacceptable.”
In a presentation at a faculty meeting earlier this month, Fellman advocated following up Carter’s appearance by opening the school to a new range of speakers on the Middle East.
“We also need to hear Avigdor Lieberman” — an Israeli Knesset member who advocates stripping Israeli Arab citizens of their citizenship — said Fellman. “We also need to hear a right-wing Orthodox settler convinced that God commands Jews to live in the West Bank. We need to hear more from Israelis who reject the occupation and reject the violence. … We need to hear Palestinians who have lived under occupation tell their sides of the story. … We need to hear from the rejectionists on both sides, and we need to hear from the accommodationists on both sides.”
Richard Silverstein at Tikun Olam does a terrific job of diving deeply into the debate at Brandeis. He gives details about two Brandeis academics who have been specifically attacked by Daniel Pipes –Natana DeLong-Bas and Khalil Shikaki–and mentions Pipes’ pivotal role in the the case most recently covered in the New York Times Magazine about Tariq Ramadan. These stories will be covered with greater depth in Muzzlewatch in the coming months.
And over at Semitism.net, Stephanie Schamess digs into the archives to answer the question WWBD-What Would Judge Brandeis Do?
My guess is that Justice Brandeis would not be pleased with what is happening at Brandeis University right now. And those donors who in the past have given to the school because it bears his name, dishonor him now by witholding funds only because the university has chosen to allow the exercise of free speech he so eloquently defended in the quotes above. Furthermore, the donors seem to have forgotten that they are giving to an educational institution, not to an organization that exists for the purpose of promulgating a particular ideological position.
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February 24th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Precisely. Speaking as someone who once raised funds for Brandeis, why do these donors give to Brandeis? So that it fulfills their political agenda? Or because it educates Jewish young people & allows them to fulfill their educational/professional goals?
Let’s not lose sight of the purpose of a university. It has a higher mission than merely adhering to an ideological perspective. Anyone who would threaten to, or actually withdraw funds fr. such an institution should examine what their motivations are in giving the money in the first place. Perhaps they should be giving the money to ZOA or StandWithUs if pro-Israel political agendas are what’s most important to them.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:35 am
Speaking of “What Would Justice Brandeis Do?”, it’s interesting to note that although he supported a certain variety of Zionism, Justice Brandeis was not in favor of Jewish sovereignty; he “neither advised nor desired an independent state. He considered statehood ‘a most serious menace.’”
(Quote from Arthur Goren, _The Politics and Public Culture of American Jews_, p.149)
In general, the description of historical figures as “supporters of Zionism” ought to be accompinied by a specification of precisely what kind of Zionism they did or did not support.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:08 am
Please stop the intellectualism. Yes, you all are very well read.
A former US President has made a major statement concerning the Palestinian/Israeli situation.
Now get the so-called anti-war democrats to apply the same standards to the unlimited war waged on Palestinians paid for by the USA.
Get the celebrities to come out and speak about this. I realize it would be dangerous for their careers. Iraq is a safe and chic issue for them. Just like the anti-aparthied movement was years ago.
Get the throngs of anti-Iraq war protestors marching behind a banner that clearly supports an end to the occupation and killing of Palestinians. Steer them away from Hugo Chavez butt kissers.
If a junior at Brandeis can’t figure this out by his/her self, no speaker is going to matter.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
There is nothing wrong with offering speakers on both sides of a contentious issue.
I’ve heard several talks by Pipes and Finkelstein. I found Pipes to be straightforward, responsible, forthcoming, relatively honest. You may agree or disagree with his opinions, but I don’t think you can deny that he is respnsible and honest in his presentation.
I found Finkelstein to be a master manipulator, essentially a collection of misleading half-truths in a very skillful manner.
Finkelstein gave a tour called “Is it anti-semitic to criticize Israel” at a time when virtually no one was claiming that it is anti-semitic to merely criticize Israel. That’s his game: set up a strawman and argue against his own strawman.
Listen closely to Finkelstein: he’ll spew a flurry of insulting adjectives to describe an author he disagrees with, use humor and bullying, then cite one or two errors in their book, claim they are therefore a “total fraud”, etc. He is convincing to those who are not schooled in the subject.
Brandeis situation is not easy. I think it would be easier if those who don’t favor Israel’s current policies would request the presence of a speaker more reputable than Finkelstein. There must be some out there, no?
How about the Editor of Haaretz? I heard him speak a couple of years ago at a conference in England. He is a straight shooter. I disagreed with his opinions on many things, but could not deny that he spoke with integrity, at least on that occasion.
By the way, there is a pattern where speakers that are more favorably disposed to Israel’s current policies get “muzzled” by loud and disruptive audience members. This includes Pipes at Berkeley and Irving, Netanyahu in Berkeley some years back (speech prevented by protests), and the Israel Consul in San Franciso several months back at SFJCC. The disupters them claim this a victory for “free speech”!
By contrast, I’ve seen many, many speakers live in person say the most vile things about Israel and it’s policies, but active disruptions are rare. Audience seem respectful and listen.
I have often felt that it is those in favor of Israel’s current policies that are being “muzzled”, as a result.
As I say, Brandeis situation is not easy.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
“Get the celebrities to come out and speak about this.”
Why does Mel Gibson leap immediately to mind?
*****
Zephnaia King, a volunteer for International ANSWER wrote an article, entitled “Experiencing Israel bashing first hand”, regarding her experience in the anti-war movement.
Excerpts follow:
“The American Left is notoriously anti-Israel. It seems that if one is
pro-choice, or pro-gay, or even pro-civil liberties, one is almost
automatically against the evil theocratic military machine dug in unfairly
in amongst its peace loving neighbors.
Nevertheless, as I set out to continue my efforts to end the Iraq War by
working as a summer intern at a major anti-war coalition based in New York
City, a coalition famous for organizing some of the largest demonstrations
against the war, I expected the activists who worked there to be different.
I expected individuals dedicated to ending all war and the atrocities that
are chained to any and every armed conflict to be able rise above the quid
pro quo political banter that has dominated the Arab-Israeli conflict from
its conception and simply work for peace. I was wrong.”
“The aforementioned coalition, and the entire American peace movement need to
decide whether it is an open-minded body, dedicated to the cessation of war
and the beginning of friendship, or a platform for one-sided Israel bashing.
If they decide on the former they must condemn the violence being carried
out on both sides and acknowledge the fact that peace can only be made by
sovereign elected governments, not rogue militias whose fundamental goals
include the complete destruction of their neighbors. And most importantly,
the peace movement must avoid fueling the fires of hate with biased
accusatory rhetoric, for these fires already engulf the region, covering the
path towards reconciliation.”
Thank you, Ms. King.
As anti-war sentiment reaches a crescendo in America, attendence at anti-war rallies is faltering. It is precisely what International ANSWER does- draging in a plethora of tangential issues- that has led to this disenchantment.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Art,
Your banter goes in circles and is never substantiated. Many opinions.
With all respect, perhaps you need to review your Hasbara Handbook and training.
February 25th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Answer your own question, Why does Mel Gibson leap immediately to your mind?
I defer to former President Carter’s
book. It is about both sides living up to 242, 338, Camp David. If you see that as Israel bashing nothing will ever change your mind.
February 25th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
“Ellen Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Art,
Your banter goes in circles and is never substantiated. Many opinions. With all respect, perhaps you need to review your Hasbara Handbook and training.”
Hi Ellen. I was definitely offering opinions. And I belive that you will think I’m going in circles only if you assume I’m trying to argue in favor or against Israel’s policies.
I’m trying to argue for honest discussion of the policies.
I go out of my way to attend lectures and events on both sides of the conflict. The ones that argue against Israel’s policies seem oddly manipulative and thin (e.g. use of the term “wall”, or Finkelstein’s rhetoric), but, this does not necessarily suggest that Israel’s policies are correct.
Please advise me on where I can find the “hasbara handbook”! And of course, where can I find the “anti-hasbara handbook”
February 25th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Art, yes, that is what I mean. You state many opinons, but do not substantiate anything. What are you saying? All your opinions and lectures do not point to honesty.
I have no opinion on Pipes at all, and no complete opinion on Finkelstein. Yet when you say,
“I found Finkelstein to be a master manipulator, essentially a collection of misleading half-truths in a very skillful manner.” What do you mean? Give an example of his half-truths? Where is your honesty?
Please don’t tell us about the wall, (which is under construction) fence or barrier, line…whatever you want to call it, whatever makes you feel alright about it and what it means for the long term future of Israel. As far as I know Finkelstein has no written statements on that and I have no idea what he calls the barrier, wall, fence or line. His debate, or rather discussion, with Former Israeli Foreign Minister, Ben-Ami, however, was very interesting. Both intelligent fair men were a fascinating talk to listen to. I can recommend it.
An Anti-Hasbara handbook will likely never be written. Why an absurd effort to an absurd handbook of “explanation” methods.
As for the handbook — I imagine you know where to get it. You appear to have Hasbara 101 behind you. (Diversion, teasing and ridicule.)
February 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
“An Anti-Hasbara handbook will likely never be written”
Its been already been written and is available for download. You can even watch the workshops:
You can chose from
Media: The New Frontier of Internet-Based Tools for Communicating and Public Relations 101—Getting into the Corporate Media
led by Mahaba Abbas Alwazir, Imagine-Life, and our very own Cecilie Surasky, Jewish Voice for Peace
or
Divestment
led William Youmans and Matt Horton, Divestment Support Committee
or
Building Organizations, Coalitions, and Action Campaigns
led by Hany Khalil, United for Peace and Justice
http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=1271
There is a wide variety of fine anti-Israel training available throughout the country.
Google Sabeel. Or Al-Awda. Or The International Solidarity Movement.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:48 am
1. I will make a point of offering more substantiation in any future commentary. I do know someone who is working on an annotated version of Finkelstein’s Stanford speech, explaining where the speech is misleading and how this is traditional Finkelstein. I’ll post a link to it when it is ready (hopefully in a few days).
2. I don’t think that I have been ridiculing anyone, but I’ll pay special attention to that possibility going forward. It is not my intention.
3. As for Brandeis - is the issue one of nature of the speakers opinion, or quality of the speaker? I believe that Brandeis difficulty in this case - that is, which speaker nominations to accept or reject - is that one can raise very serious objection to Finkelstein in terms of the quality of his scholarship and reasoning. I suggested an example of an alternative speaker - the editor of Ha-aretz - as someone whose political opinions are similar, but in my experience, much more well thought out. You can judge this yourself by reading the editorial pages of Haaretz online (www.haaretz.com/). (If you do, I urge you to also read Jerusalem Post as a counterpoint! http://www.jpost.com/). In particular, Haaretz has a columnist who has been living in the occupied territories and reporting in Haaretz pages for years. The editor has for many years been openly exasperated with Israel’s actions in West Bank and Gaza. I think it’s fair to say that he is an eloquent speaker.
4. “Ellen says: Please don’t tell us about the wall, (which is under construction) fence or barrier, line…whatever you want to call it, whatever makes you feel alright about it and what it means for the long term future of Israel. ”
I have not offered any opinion about the West Bank barrier at all, in terms of its existence, or placement. I raise the issue it is an unusually simple and glaring example of how otherwise well-meaning people are so easily mislead. Calling it a “wall” is simply a lie, as such a small portion is a wall, yet, this lie is so embedded in the culture of those that oppose Israel’s policies that one cannot dent it. It’s a bizarre situation, but illustrative of a much broader problem. This is the problem that I focus on, rather than my own opinions about Israeli policies per se.
What I have neglected to do, alas, is offer a pointer to the evidence that the majority of it is not a wall.
Probably I should also, in the future offer a broader array of examples of mis-information (citing specific evidence) rather than focus on this one issue. I find this one fascinating because it is so glaring and also so resilient.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:01 am
ps: Here is a useful, detailed and relatively neutral discussion of the West Bank barrier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier
February 26th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
As an additional criteria to “when is bashing Israel anti-semitism”, we should add, “fabricating lies or half truths in order to demonize Israel” as anti-semitic.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
I believe the Ha’aretz journalist in question is Danny Rubinstein. Here’s a link to his latest editorial:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/830495.html
For what it’s worth I think he’s absolutely right.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Its very nice that a Jewish Israeli writer expresses his beliefs in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, but do any Palestinians believe that? Wasn’t the election of Hamas essentially a referendum on exactly that? Wasn’t the election of Hamas a strong statement on the “Peace Process?” Where’s the “Palestinian Shalom Achschav” or similar statements in a Palestinian paper? Isn’t it wrong to assert someone else’s opinion for them? Perhaps you should read MEMRI more often.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Well, Rubinstein’s point is that he’s out there among Palestinians all the time, and that they DO think this way.
And for that matter, of course, there’s a “Peace Block” among Palestinians. The problem is—just like the peace block in Israel—it’s been politically sidelined. Of course, the sidelining is a little more “forceful” in the territories than it is in the world of Israeli Politics (not to mention American Politics). The organizations who are working from the left in the territories are usually too busy trying to defend the civil rights of Palestinians from two directions (from the Israelis and from the PA) to spend a lot of time on building a political movement with much more than a local profile. If you’re interested in taking a look at that world, you might begin with the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (here’s their blurb from the Ariga website):
================
Palestinian Center for Human Rights
(PCHR)
Omar El Mukhtar St., al-Remal (near Amal Hotel)
P.O.B. 1204,
Gaza City
Tel/Fax: 07-824776, 07-825893
e-mail: pchr@palnet.com
sourani@trendline.co.il
Director: Raji Sourani
The aims of PCHR, which was established in 1995, include: protection and respect of human rights and support of the rule of law according to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and all the other human rights agreements; assisting in the development of democratic institutions and civil society according to international standards; supporting the rights of Palestinian people as recognized by international law.
PCHR’s Field Research Unit documents all the violations of human rights in the Gaza Strip by both the Israeli and Palestinian authorities and provides legal aid and counselling free of charge for the victims of these violations. PCHR publishes reports, research results and studies concerning human rights and proposals for new Palestinian laws. PCHR organizes workshops and conferences about human rights and educates people about their rights. PCHR also organizes meetings between the human rights organizations, the NGOs, and the official representatives of the Palestinian Legislative Council and the PNA. PCHR has published a number of studies.
There are several areas the PCHR is currently working in regarding the Palestinian authorities: the units of the Palestinian Security Services whose responsibilities and duties are unknown, and among whom there is no coordination; protection of freedom of expression; support of the system of civil judges; the State Security Court; the establishment of regulations.
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And here’s a link to another organization, the Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group:
http://www.phrmg.org/profile.htm
March 1st, 2007 at 1:23 am
Pipes Rules and Finkelstein, is an moron.
Wonder why the silencing of the right is OK, but not the left, remember Concordia, since BeBe no Jeish Prime Ministers could come back to speak due to security reasons. Talk about shutting down free speech.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 am
The most important issues are these:
1)Said was not a Palestinian. He was born in Egypt and grew up in the USA. Jsutice Weiner of Israels judiciary proved his claim of a family home in Israel was fabricated after going through Trukish land deeds and documents. Said spun it back claiming it is Arab tradition to share family homes. Yeah, right.
2) Said was censured by Columbias Academic Senate because he was filmed throwing rocks
at an Israeli soldier on teh LEbanese border. Hardly something to qualify his likeness on a mural at a major university.
3) Said’s academic works were academically unsound. He was an English lit professor, not a Middle East expert. His book Orietnalism was ridiculous, claiming Europeans cannot write or record Middle East hsitory effectively because they can only do so from a “colonialist perspective.” That is poor racism, but it sure sold a lot of books among the bash Israel crowd of Middle East Studies people financed by SAudi grant money.
4) Said was said, “Facts dont matter. Only emotions matter. Write your own history.”
Arafat said it too to parrot Said. Arafat alsoencouraged Arab children to throw rocks at Jews. Said hardly is a sample of anything or anybody that a university should put up a mural as an homage to.
Finally, I have no doubt the JVP here would have defended the last mural taken down at SFSU that featured a Star of David dripping with blood had the organization been in existence yet. Lets face it. JVP either intentionally works to aid forces seeking the ultiamte destrcution of Israel (while claiming they are pro-Israel), or is full of people who have lost any sense of reality
and hisitory. Your website states the Exodus and First Temple were myths and Even once claimed Jews probably never lived in teh Holy Land at all 2,000 years ago.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 am
1)Said was not a Palestinian. He was born in Egypt and grew up in the USA. Jsutice Weiner of Israels judiciary proved his claim of a family home in Israel was fabricated after going through Trukish land deeds and documents. Said spun it back claiming it is Arab tradition to share family homes. Yeah, right.
2) Said was censured by Columbias Academic Senate because he was filmed throwing rocks
at an Israeli soldier on teh LEbanese border. Hardly something to qualify his likeness on a mural at a major university.
3) Said’s academic works were academically unsound. He was an English lit professor, not a Middle East expert. His book Orietnalism was ridiculous, claiming Europeans cannot write or record Middle East hsitory effectively because they can only do so from a “colonialist perspective.” That is poor racism, but it sure sold a lot of books among the bash Israel crowd of Middle East Studies people financed by SAudi grant money.
4) Said was said, “Facts dont matter. Only emotions matter. Write your own history.”
Arafat said it too to parrot Said. Arafat alsoencouraged Arab children to throw rocks at Jews. Said hardly is a sample of anything or anybody that a university should put up a mural as an homage to.
Finally, I have no doubt the JVP here would have defended the last mural taken down at SFSU that featured a Star of David dripping with blood had the organization been in existence yet. Lets face it. JVP either intentionally works to aid forces seeking the ultiamte destrcution of Israel (while claiming they are pro-Israel), or is full of people who have lost any sense of reality
and hisitory. Your website states the Exodus and First Temple were myths and Even once claimed Jews probably never lived in teh Holy Land at all 2,000 years ago.
March 5th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Lets face it. Billy Carter was smarter than Jimmy, and more honest than Jimmy when it came to the Jews